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HRA Oct 8 2024 meeting

Regular monthly meeting of the Housing & Redevelopment Authority (HRA) held at the Pioneer Apartments on October 8, 2024. As with many city meetings, the agenda and packet are not posted online nor broadcast/streamed.

This is the Citizens for Transparency’s first recording of an HRA meeting. Note: recording did not start at beginning.

Minutes of this meeting will eventually be submitted to Ely City Council. Check for them in the Council Packet posted online at www.ely.mn.us/2024-meetings

This was the 2-page agenda handed out at the meeting:

Names of Housing Redevelopment Authority (HRA) members, their terms, and what HRA is supposed to do are posted on Ely website www.ely.mn.us/boards. Scroll down webpage to find HRA. To the right, you will find a copy of what was posted today, October 8th.

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City Council Oct 1 2024

Two agenda items were approved too quickly tonight: A hotel development agreement (yellow highlights) and the first reading of Miners Lake ordinance change (blue highlights).

City Hall is pushing for actions, ordinances & developments BEFORE a new Council is seated in 2025. Artificial emergencies and “easiest ways” will be promoted. Stay vigilant! Your active civic participation in local government is essential, whether it is attending meetings, watching videos, sharing information, or contacting City Hall and Council Members. Your vote counts!

Scroll down for time markers and YouTube clip. Agendas and documents in Council packets are posted on Ely City website at www.ely.mn.us/2024-meetings

How could Council so quickly approve the Development Agreement without real discussion? The 3-page agreement was posted an hour before Council was to meet. Which members had adequate time to read through and understand the Development Agreement (and other documents that were suddenly added 1 hour before Council met)? Why was it so urgent to have Council sign off tonight? Supposedly so Ely and developer could apply for funding. But no deadline dates for filling were mentioned. And the application was already being scored. Was this current application submitted under the name of The Pillar Company LLC or Matt Stupnik, since scoring already started?

Compare the amount of time Council asked questions and commented re hotel development vs. time spent on the Dumpster Enclosure Ordinance. Answer: hotel zero minutes, dumpster 7 minutes

Why did The Pillar Company LLC suddenly appear as the one completing the renovation and conversion of the original Ely Community Center into a hotel? On the third page of the agreement, Mattew A Stupnik signed as owner of The Pillar Company LLC. He was supposedly the original owner and developer for the project. The Pillar Company LLC was not cited in previous documents, minutes or agendas. Why was this name change necessary? Is this a liability issue because failure is hinted at tonight?

40:14 minutes into the YouTube clip – Harold Langowski mentioned they’d been working for “some time” on this development agreement. 41:10 + He mentions if the project stalls or fails (not completed), IRRR will hold back on its funding (if granted). Who steps up to finish the project? Listen to details given about the IRRR funding being for demolition efforts. What about actual construction of hotel rooms and cigar room? Parking details still need to be agreed upon. 44:20 Council approved the development agreement without a single question, comment or discussion.

Who and what is The Pillar Company LLC? LLC = Limited Liability Company A quick search on the Minnesota Secretary of State’s Search Business Filings tonight (Oct. 1st) did not show The Pillar Company LLC as being registered in MN. It is not listed as an active or inactive business. So it was suddenly created or changed its name and thus is not listed tonight?

An address search for The Pillar Company LLC’s “principal place of business at 30 S 1st Ave East” brings up The Ely Community Center. Has the building been approved for occupation and operation of a business? In other words, is this a real (=working) office?

SLC Parcel Tax Lookup

A search on the St. Louis County Parcel Tax Lookup for 30 S 1st Ave East shows Matthew Stupek is the owner. He lives in Dellwood, MN.

He purchased the property for $2 in December 2018.

A Google search on 30 S 1st Ave East also brings up an Ely website page titled “Community Center Information.” The attached photos “taken before the 2018 sale” aren’t posted, but a link to the 2014 Community Center Reuse Study (pdf) is still working as of Oct. 1, 2024. The sale price was $79,000?

The completion deadline has now changed from Summer of 2025 to maybe October 2026 . . . or later. It is not clear when the parking lot at 26 and 36 East Conan will be finished. Other issues and questions come to mind. There was no discussion tonight comparing this new agreement with the previous one Council signed in 2018.

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Why did Council have to approve the first reading of Ordinance 378 tonight, removing the land stability requirement? They did not have enough facts – or requested clarifications – in front of them.

They did not have a map in their packet. Are we talking about Spaulding, Trezona Trail, or whole shoreline? Whole shoreline around Miners Lake. There will probably be a zoning change, but nothing was presented saying how the different shoreline areas on Miners Lake will be zoned after the Ordinance has been approved (after 2nd reading and Public Hearing). Council was not told what could or is already in planning. Many residents on Miners Lake are concerned about future development that does not fit into their residential areas nor protect the natural environment (why they moved there).

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page 114 in online Council packet

If Council does not have enough information, they can always ask for more details and more input from the public or experts. Council has delayed holding first readings previously. They did not delay tonight. City Attorney Kelly Klun said, “It’s easiest for Council to first approve” the reading tonight and then get information. They will do the necessary checks. Easiest isn’t the best choice. Being informed first is the best choice.

Council minutes from Sept. 3, 2024

On September 3, Council wanted the City Attorney to provide “more clarification” about the removal of “land stability.” It’s not clear in the excerpt to the left who’s purchasing which shoreline areas. There’s a vague reference to “the land that is being sold.” Should these areas best be designated and protected as open space? Rather than clarifying anything, as requested, an ordinance was presented for its first public reading.

7:30 – 10:40 minutes in YouTube: Dr. Catherine Helm-Clark spoke. She explained why the City should consult DNR before making any ordinance changes. She referenced Silver Rapids resort development issues and DNR involvement. Ely doesn’t need to get involved in lawsuit with the DNR.

10:40-12:45 discussion followed.

Minutes from December 20, 2023 P&Z meeting

P&Z tried to get more information, even requesting it not appear on future agendas since no discussions were taking place. They didn’t have information., etc. But the topic – removal of land stability – kept appearing on the agenda. Requests for clarification were ignored or bypassed and suddenly the first reading appears. Something stinks and it ain’t rotting fish. Council does not understand and/or doesn’t want to take the time to understand the maneuvering going on. Council is being played against residents. Stop now before a messy Public Hearing is held. Beware when someone suggests you make uninformed decisions because it’s the “easiest way” to proceed.

Removal of “land stability” started appearing on P&Z agendas and/or minutes back in Dec 2024 if not earlier AFTER the ATV/RV development was successfully protested against by the Ely community. There are no coincidences.

Removal started appearing at the same time P&Z and City Hall pushed PUD (Planned Unit Development). There are no coincidences. Then P&Z Chair Mike Banovetz said the PUD would speed up approval processes, overriding the current ordinances that block or restrict a development. Watch the video clips posted for the Nov. 15, 2023 P&Z meeting, Part B, approximately 2 minutes into the clip. This is why Citizens for Transparency started recording. https://elyminnesota.com/blog/recording-pz-mtg-nov-15-2023/

Highlights with time markers on YouTube.

12:45 minutes into YouTube – Park & Recreation Board report and recommendations.

17:14 minutes into YouTube – Planning and Zoning Commission report and recommendations. 18:30-27:50 minutes – Cannabis discussion – P&Z/Council Study Session set for October 29th 27:50-34:05 minutes At Dumpster Enclosure Ordinance discussion – sent back to P&Z.

40:14-44:35 – Development Agreement with The Pillar Company LLC (See notes above)

55:26-58:19 – First reading of Ordinance 378 – land stability along Miners Lake shoreline (See notes above)

1:00:00-1:04:45 Harold Langowski responded to Correspondence from Ely Area Ambulance Service (EAAS) regarding replacement of Chuck Novak.

1:05:20 – Claudia McBride appointed to Tree Board

1:07:20- Ely membership in the Iron Range Brownfields Coalition (Page 151 in Council Packet) to seek grants from US EPA. Harold then asked to discuss funding applications status. Otts (property owners) have to fund development for monies not received. We’ll keep applying.

1:10:45 – Open Forum – Frederica Musgrave – Last minute additions to Council agendas should be posted earlier (by noon). An hour doesn’t allow time to review.

AI generated “info panels” on YouTube

AI has now taken a new spin on YouTube videos. We can NOT stop or remove the message that is displayed across the top of YouTube videos posted here on this website. At this time, there is no way for us to delete the panel nor control the content. Apparently this has something to do with the wording “elections, “candidate forums,” or ???? Sorry!

We discovered this problem today (September 25) when posting the Candidate Forum for the Ely Council race that was held on Tuesday, September 24, 2024 at Northland College. https://elyminnesota.com/blog/candidate-forum-for-council-sept-24-2024/

Here is what YouTube Help posted online today:

Candidate Forum for Council Sept 24 2024

Only 4 of the 5 candidates running for City Council appeared at the forum hosted by the Ely Branch of AAUW and the Rotary Club of Ely at Northland College.

Reporters from The Ely Echo and The Timberjay were there. If you subscribe to these newspapers, you will be able to read their digital articles before papers are delivered to stores or delivered to you. Be informed: support both newspapers!! Subscription rates are posted below after the YouTube video.

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Park & Rec mtg May 20 2024

The Ely Park & Rec Board met outside on May 20, 2024. The meeting started at the shelter in Whiteside Park, then walked over to the Little League baseball fields. The group then walked over to see a tree climbing demonstration by Dutchman. They wanted to offer this activity to kids during July 4th events at Whiteside. Unfortunately, conversations during the walks, presentation and demonstration portion of the Park & Rec meeting were not of YouTube quality for posting. After the two “walking field trips,” everyone returned to the pavilion at Whiteside. Scroll down for YouTube clip.

Ozzie Reif gave updates of Trail Town.

The Ely Pickleball Club presented info followed by discussions.

Council Rep Adam Bisbee talked about a multiple-use recreational facility that could be used all year, bringing into Ely during the “off season.”

Council Rep Adam Bisbee talked about a multiple-use recreational facility that could be used all year, bringing into Ely during the “off season.”

Julie Higdahl offer reflections using Rec Center

Updates on Semers Building

Park & Rec Budget for 2024-2024. Harold Langowski, City Clerk, presented info and asked Park & Rec to review. Frederica Musgrave discussed Park & Rec budget, what’s missing, and also talked about Comp Plan.Rec to review.

Land Use & Comp Plan discussed. Abby Dare shared 7 pages from NRPA (National Recreation & Park Association): “Parks and Recreation is Essential.”

Planning & Zoning Sept 18 2024

Regular scheduled Planning & Zoning Commission meeting held in Ely, MN on September 18th, 2024. Scroll down for link to video recording.

Request to Appear: Park & Rec Board Chair Morgan Sauls & Council Rep Adam Bisbee requested Planning & Zoning consider using City-owned and designated open space parcels as simple parks or green space for neighborhoods. Lots of questions and discussion. P&Z was amenable. Great job, everyone! Next time, please mention seniors and birders.

Scott Kochendorfer has been meeting with Ely Climate Group and looking at the GreenStep Cities program. He’ll be meeting with MPCA. Ely might really be at Level 3 right now. Paperwork has to be done.

Scott Kochendorfer showed short video about National Fitness Campaign. Question why this was shown at P&Z instead of Park & Rec. Note: It was presented at Park & Rec Board meeting 2 days ago, questions were asked, but no recommendations were made for P&Z to get involved.

This is the 3rd meeting that a tiny home developer has been discussed at P&Z meeting. The first time involved “slideshow” presentation by Scott Kochendorfer. The second time (last meeting) were updates on developer meeting with the City. As usual, P&Z had lots of questions. People will purchase the homes; the developer will own and lease out the space (land). No pricing for homes was presented tonight. The developer is working on funding and apparently wants to start next summer. Council Member Bisbee suggested using “studio housing” instead of “tiny homes.” The developer’s full company name and address (in Wisconsin or Canada?) have not appeared in writing in the agenda, minutes, or packet documents (?) for 3 meetings now. Transparency is important, so the public can also get involved checking info online. Will this end up being a single source development?

Second Hand Goods License Ordinance

Cannabis Zoning: 9 dense pages for P&Z to discuss for first time with hope they could make recommendations to Council tonight. P&Z Board Member Joe Prioreschi pointed out the ordinance recommendations presented to them seemed to have double standards (more strict than with liquor) and have unreasonable regulated times for private cannabis events. P&Z recommended approval of some parts of the documents, noting exceptions Joe Prioreschi mentioned, and asked for study session with Council.

IUP Process update – discussion
Dumpster Enclosure Ordinance – discussion

After 2 hours, P&Z adjourned. There was no time to discuss the Ely Land Use and Comprehensive Plan. The time spent earlier in the evening would have been better spent discussing the City Comp Plan instead of watching a National Fitness Campaign video that had nothing to do with P&Z.

Park & Rec Sept 16 2024

Regular meeting held at the Ely Recreation Center (ERC) on Main Street instead of Council Chambers. Park & Recreation Board meetings are not usually recorded by the City. There are 3 video clips of this meeting posted by Citizens for Transparency, because there were 2 outdoor “field trips” that were not recorded.

Tonight was perhaps an record-setting meeting in terms of the number of recommendations made to City Council. Many of the recommendations were done outside and should appear in Park & Rec’s minutes posted in City Council’s packet.

Part A (approx 8 minutes) starts with usual discussion about agenda, etc. New Board Member Steven Toddie welcomed.

Chair Morgan Sauls and Adam Bisbee were invited to attend the Wednesday (Sept 18) Planning & Zoning meeting to start discussion on green spaces. If others from Park & Rec want to attend, they should consider attending as public and not as Park & Rec Board Members, or just not attend, so there are no issues about quorums and open meeting laws. Council Members Adam Bisbee and Angela Campbell (Council Rep on P&Z) are not voting members of their commissions, so they can both attend.

Abby Dare voted in as Vice Chair of Park & Rec Board.

Part A was followed by “walking field trip” outside to the skateboard area. Two girls formally recommended repairs and changes. Park & Rec voted on several recommendations for action. See their Sept 16th minutes when posted in Council packet. For privacy reasons, this was not recorded.

Part B (approx 47 minutes) Discussion begins with North Country Trail Town memo of understanding from Steve Piragis and Ozzie Reif. An official ribbon-cutting event at noon on Sept 28th at Hidden Valley. Community involvement and groups shared.

Other topics: replacement of drum head at Whiteside Park and how to deal with vandalism in the parks, including using cameras. Trail maps – which ones and where are they (should be) available.

Abby Dare would like more pollinator gardens, rain gardens, etc. Discussion followed. She’ll bring more info later. Park & Rec would like to collaborate with others. Sustainability is important. Maybe make it part of Comp Plan. Make it part of Park & Rec mission. Gardens are hard to maintain. Should we consider private enterprise to maintain?

Other topics: hockey rink repairs, stories, costs, sharing. Should Park & Rec set up a study session for public to get together and talk about multi-recreational activities (mainly sports)? Yes. Mural painting at Semers Pavilion. There are various artists and NLAA are interested.

Comprehensive Plan. Scott Kochendorfer suggested there be a Google document shown on the overhead screen at the Planning & Zoning meeting.

Part B was followed by “walking field trip” to Pillow Rock (greenstone rock formation). Park & Rec voted on several recommendations about new signage, removal of posts, and clearing/weeding of Pillow Rock area. See their Sept 16th minutes when posted in Council packet. Due to expected rain, this excursion was not recorded.

Part C (approx 20 minutes long) starts with a discussion of designated dog-friendly area near softball field. Bruce Wheelright presented progress his group has made. Questions, answers and comments followed. There are issues about wet areas. Dogs are not allowed on ball fields. The dog park group is still working on nonprofit status. Liability costs might be $800/year??

Scott Kochendorfer presented information from the National Fitness Campaign (NFC) for “A comprehensive community wellness program.” Lots of discussion about possibilities for Ely and court design reflecting Ely.

Council Member Adam Bisbee shared information he found about liability when public activities take place on private property.

Scott Kochendorfer, Planning Administrator, discussed the possibility of developing mountain bike and dirt bike trails by the college and along the south side of Miners Lake). The City has been talking with a trail developer for the area by the college. The maps presented are hard to read, so listen closely to the presentation.

Special notes from FM: In response to this posting, many have commented about having non-motorized mountain and dirt bike trails closer to downtown Ely, near the college, etc. Many new people I’ve spoken to want motorized bike trails. The purpose of the Citizens for Transparency website is to provoke citizen action. Why promote transparency when nobody acts? Yes, saying “motorized” provokes. Scott Kochendorfer did not clarify. Citizens need to appear at commission, committee and board meetings to propose what they want, what they feel fits in with their neighborhood and surrounding community, whether businesses or nature. Look through previous recordings of Park & Rec to see when “quiet bikers” last presented. Look at their minutes. There is a different kind of open discussion that flows when citizens directly approach the commissions, committees, and boards at their meetings. If you can, compare the discussions (of previously recorded) Park & Rec meetings when citizens directly presented vs. when The City presented what was lobbied to them. In both instances, there needs to be more reflection on the community-wide vision for areas — not just piecemeal decisions based on a zoning code of open, commercial, etc. There are MANY voiced and unvoiced opinions about projects, trails, developments, etc. for the same desirable areas in Ely. How can Park & Rec or Planning & Zoning select among the BEST proposals when they are currently presented in piecemeal fashion? We need more quiet bikes and bikers in and around Ely. We need more discussions that evolve around what additional services, amenities, signage, parking stands, “repair stations,” etc. are needed, as well as safe paths. Park & Rec meetings are the most open, transparent and welcoming format for bikers to DIRECTLY share ideas and proposals with the WHOLE community.

Part A (8 minutes)
Park B
Part C

City Council Sep 3 2024 mtg

Regular Ely, MN City Council meeting held on September 3, 2024. Agenda and Council packet available on City website https://www.ely.mn.us/2024-meetings. Scroll down for link to YouTube. Recording started late with end of Mayor’s Report. No Consent Agenda items. No Requests to Appear. Highlights and time markers:


0:45 seconds into YouTube – Planning & Zoning report
2:10 into recording -Questions & discussion about P&Z recommendation to approve list of zoning designations for areas that currently do not have zoning designation. Council packet has list of locations. There will be a Public Hearing.
3:00 into recording – Questions and discussion about removal of “land stability” requirement. Harold Langowski explained location and history. It is difficult to certify.
6:45 – Telecommunications Report
7:17 – Employee Relations Report


7:30 – EUC – Discussion of sustainability efforts: Holophane light fixtures; EV study with CALSTART 9:40 Gardner Trust
10:05 – Ely Lodging Tax Report – Paul Kess talked about his approach to lodging tax issues; see packet his written explanation that Council approved.
12:30 – Park & Rec meeting change of location will meet at Ely Rec Center3rd Monday 5 pm.
13:10 – 17:20 Clerk/Treasurer Report – Annual Crack Sealing of City Streets – Discussion about where, solicitation of quotes and quality. Kudos to Council Member Paul Kess: He asked about the City getting quotes for work ($18,615). Harold Langowski avoided saying no request for bids were sent out. Typically, the City uses J&A, basically saying the City doesn’t need to seek quotes. There are 2 local vendors they use. The state has a list of statewide vendors, meaning there are more than 2 vendors. Yes, comments were made about J&A’s quality work. There was no discussion of actual REQUIRED policy to make sure citizens get quality at fair price. No other vendors will be contacted by the City for bids, so they are excluded from opportunity to bid? If you’re not part of in group, you’re not in? Having AND following established purchasing procedures is the best policy. There are legitimate ways to exclude contracting with lowest bidders. There are legitimate ways to justify awarding single source contracts. Document it.
17:20 – Fire Chief. 8 medical calls, 1 fire call (Babbitt). Public Safety Open House on Sept 25
19:10 – Library Director – LOTS of activities. Library will be closed next week from Tues., Sept. 10th to Fri, Sept. 13th while staff attend out of town library gathering.
21:43 – Police Chief – school is open; bear visitors

City Attorney – nothing
City Engineer – nothing
Communications – nothing
24:34 – Claims for Payment
25:45 – Old Business – Steve Toddie appointed to Park & Rec. Council Member Adam Bisbee explained process. Who is “we”? No discussion about Council formally establishing application process, interviewing, and then Park & Rec Board recommending appointments
26:38 – Mayor Heidi Omerza announcing 2 open seats for Tree Board and Heritage
27:25 – Council Member Angela Campbell welcomed public
27:30 – New Business
Open Forum – nobody

City Council Aug 27 2024 mtg

The Ely MN City Council August 20th meeting didn’t have a quorum and reconvened tonight on Aug 27, 2024. Council packets for both meetings with changes & additions are available at https://www.ely.mn.us/2024-meetings Scoll to bottom to watch YouTube recording.

The 4:30 pm meeting went quickly tonight, because a special study session had already been scheduled to start at 5:30 pm. The Ely Bloomenson Community Hospital (EBCH) was to present SafeTech Solutions study on EMS for area. Ambulance Joint Powers Members and EMS involved were invited. To see recording, go to https://elyminnesota.com/blog/ems-study-session-city-council-aug-27-2024/

Due to quickened pace, there was not too much discussion tonight. Most importantly, Council did not discuss policies and procedures for applications and appointments to commissions. For details, see the posting and recording of the August 19th Park & Recreation Board meeting at https://elyminnesota.com/blog/park-rec-aug-19-2024-mtg-2/ Who should interview applicants? Interview in private or public? Recommend appointment without first seeing any information? Is this the new normal?

Council approved posting the new Tree Board and Park & Rec openings. There was no discussion about how long openings should be posted before applications are closed off. Page 8 in the Council packet says the City will post until 4:30 pm on Aug 29th. Tonight is Aug 27th. The official City newspaper is the Ely Echo. The earliest newspaper posting of open seats would be Sat., Aug. 31st, the day after applications are closed. Who cares about protocol?

As previously mentioned, minutes from Commission meetings are constantly posted in Council packets before the minutes are reviewed and approved by the commissioners. The minutes are rarely marked as drafts. If the minutes are subsequently revised (nobody wants to point mistakes), how and when are revised minutes announced to Council AND to the public? Staff and Commissioners should NOT be rushed to submit minutes to Council. Why the pressure?

Park & Rec had a quorum for only half of its meeting on August 19th. One Board Member had to leave early. There was no note taking after that time? Council will never learn what was discussed by the remaining Board Members, including comments directed to Council? As usual, great comments, questions and concerns about dog park vs. dog-friendly park; WHY they want to meet with Planning & Zoning; what they remember from Bill Tefft’s presentations; comments about the Comp Plan; possibilities for public school and VCCstudents . . . all that talk and time was off the record? What does Robert’s Rules of Order say about note taking and minutes when there’s no quorum? You cannot take actions if there’s no quorum. Talk matters?

Compare the August 19th Park & Rec minutes submitted tonight (Pages 5 & 6 in the Council packet) with the actual recording of the minutes https://elyminnesota.com/blog/park-rec-aug-19-2024-mtg-2/

Watch the City Council meeting. It’s less than 29 minutes long.

EMS Study Session – City Council – Aug 27 2024

This is a special study session of the Ely (MN) City Council on August 27, 2024, that was open to the public. The Ely-Bloomenson Community Hospital (EBCH) was invited to present the findings of SafeTech Solutions whom EBCH had contracted with. Scroll down for YouTube link.

To view the 15-page Council packet for tonight, which included some copies of EBCH’s power point presentation, go to https://www.ely.mn.us/2024-meetings

Click link to view a recording of the 2-hour long June 13, 2024, presentation by EBCH and SafeTech Solutions at the Ely Senior Center: An Evaluation of Creating an EMS System in Northern St. Louis & Lake County, MN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5kGtG7Y4HE

Patti Banks mentioned tonight as she had previously over and over again, SafeTech Solutions had major problems getting financial information from certain parties. Not all parties involved would release their info. She did not point fingers. Many of those asking questions tonight wanted data, including dollars and cents data. It is indeed hard to forecast costs, etc. when you don’t have complete current information. Nobody speaking tonight volunteered to name which organization was unwilling to provide financial details, etc. to SafeTech Solutions.

After Patti Banks’ presentation, several representatives from the interested organizations voiced concerns, asked questions, and expressed support for many proposed changes, including future outsourcing of jobs, housing, number of ambulances, etc.

What is surprising is that many of these concerns and questions were not voiced on January 29, 2024, when the Ambulance Joint Powers Board met in Winton, MN. Patti Banks kept asking for input and suggestions before SafeTech Solutions finalized their report. Little/no input from the Ambulance Joint Powers Members. Watch the recording of that meeting at https://elyminnesota.com/blog/recording-ambulance-jp-board-mtg-jan-29-2024/

At approximately 1:03:00 time marker, Catie Clark from the Timberjay asked an important question about a special loophole.

At approximately 1:10:00 time marker, MN Representative Roger Skraaba spoke briefly. He had entered the Council Chambers just minutes before.

Note: Our Ely Council Rep on the Ely Area Ambulance Service Joint Powers Board is Al Forsman. Our alternate is Paul Kess.